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I have recently posted on towards other spas and had mentioned both SL and EM. A guy dm's me saying the ongoing arrogance of Renee. I do believe she was offering fs earlier this year, for whatever reasons, according to a friend. Some were saying a breakup may be the cause but he also said one time in the rear door room, both Renee and Lucy were there. Lucy said she had a rough night as she was laying on the bed and could hardly lift her head off pillow, like she was on a binge of some sort.
On another note, during opening hours for em, the door was locked. I am thinking , okay, receptionist is on bathroom break. Then saw Michelle pop out of a room and opened the door. She asked if I had an appt, I said no and she said sorry, am busy right now. I was never a regular for her but she was wearing knee high boots, mini and a loose pullover.
This was not too long ago and I was under the impression she did not do massage any longer. Like I said, I was never a Michelle type of guy but I have to say, that day she looked pretty hot. Is she doing massage for only special clients now?
Sounds like fetish-cosplay stuffโ€ฆ Renee does that 2โ€ฆ seen her all decked out in leather once
:sm

As for Renee, folks gonna believe what they wantโ€ฆ Im agnostic, but nobody said anything convincng 2 make me believeโ€ฆ no descrption of how it happened, what happened, was it cbj then cfsโ€ฆ or bbbjโ€ฆ what time, what rmโ€ฆ

Bcuz u provide 411, ppl can call u out, right?

So if I just say, yup, I did it ! Yup.

That was me. ๐Ÿ™‹โ€โ™‚๏ธ

U= convinced?

:lol
 
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I have to agree with you about these particular places. Those two owner's attitude and manners changed over the years.
My buddies also expressed same like these comments to me.
I was a regular customer for E&M years ( from the day they started). I am giving tips also in a good manner. I had a bad taste in my tongue, from last year, so that I stopped going over there. There is no shortage of places here in the GTA.
For KJ's support and bump higher most places due to other reasons. Selling his stuff and other things. That's nothing do with me. I am not against or for him.
Also the fking side effects of Covid , totally changed the people's state of mind. I think the service level went down so many places progressively.


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If it's the spa KJ is talking about, I have to agree with him here. It's new and clean. Yeah, any small place with only 2 girls might get disorganized from time to time (especially with new girls coming and going) but it's no big deal. Maybe your expectations are too high...you shouldn't be comparing these spas to legit clinics ๐Ÿ™‚. As I'm sure you know, most are run by ex-MPAs trying their best...

It does have a shitty set up for a new spa. They have one common shower, the front room is next to the front door and you have to walk past reception to get to the shower. It doesn't seem like any thought was put into the design.
 
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It does have a shitty set up for a new spa. They have one common shower, the front room is next to the front door and you have to walk past reception to get to the shower. It doesn't seem like any thought was put into the design.
Again, I didnโ€™t mention the spa by name. But it was definitely in a state of disarray, perhaps in mid cleaning or reorganizing but during open hours. And no one in sight for a few minutes, then totally surprised I was there. Not the best impression to make
 
Again, I didnโ€™t mention the spa by name. But it was definitely in a state of disarray, perhaps in mid cleaning or reorganizing but during open hours. And no one in sight for a few minutes, then totally surprised I was there. Not the best impression to make

I was more so commenting on OG's post on that particular spa.

Disorganization at any AMP is typically par for the course when the boss is not in.
 
The guys that have mentioned it are just posting on some general discussion type threads. They aren't 'reviews' per se so why would you expect a play-by-play? ๐Ÿ™‚


As for Renee, folks gonna believe what they wantโ€ฆ Im agnostic, but nobody said anything convincng 2 make me believeโ€ฆ no descrption of how it happened, what happened, was it cbj then cfsโ€ฆ or bbbjโ€ฆ what time, what rmโ€ฆ

Bcuz u provide 411, ppl can call u out, right?

So if I just say, yup, I did it ! Yup.

That was me. ๐Ÿ™‹โ€โ™‚๏ธ

U= convinced?

:lol
 
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It does have a shitty set up for a new spa. They have one common shower, the front room is next to the front door and you have to walk past reception to get to the shower. It doesn't seem like any thought was put into the design.

Not a big deal to me but to each their own. There's a room at the back right across from the shower. If you know you're gonna take a shower, just request that room...
 
I said it last year and some didn't agree. MPAs are going to be more TIP hungry once things open up.

They said MPAs would never do this because it will hurt them

Now I have seen and heard stories of MPAs asking for way more then the usual price for basic services.
 
It's pretty much the same as before. If they are expecting more, it's because they are doing more...but still the same market prices for the particular services that you are getting.


I said it last year and some didn't agree. MPAs are going to be more TIP hungry once things open up.

They said MPAs would never do this because it will hurt them

Now I have seen and heard stories of MPAs asking for way more then the usual price for basic services.
 
These Chinese MPAs should be grateful to be getting what they are being paid even with no or low tips. If they don't like it, they are welcome to go back to their trash home countries and make a fifth of what they are making in Canada. I also have no sympathy for Chinese that come into this country and not report their full income and not pay their fair share of taxes. Fuck these Chinese cunts
 
It's pretty much the same as before. If they are expecting more, it's because they are doing more...but still the same market prices for the particular services that you are getting.

I have noticed steady increases at holistic places though. FS used to be $100 on top of door fee, then it went to $120, some are $140 and up.

I don't know if it's covid related or simply girls trying to make maximum bank.
 
I have noticed steady increases at holistic places though. FS used to be $100 on top of door fee, then it went to $120, some are $140 and up.

I don't know if it's covid related or simply girls trying to make maximum bank.

Maybe...can't speak to the holistic places. But I've been to a lot of semi places and pretty much the same as before.

Having said that, there are a couple of places that have raised the room fee by $10 but most room fees are the same as before and tips are the same as before too...
 
I have noticed steady increases at holistic places though. FS used to be $100 on top of door fee, then it went to $120, some are $140 and up.

I don't know if it's covid related or simply girls trying to make maximum bank.

$140 is price point I have been hearing about.

I think it's just making bank because guys are willing to pay right now.
 
Maybe...can't speak to the holistic places. But I've been to a lot of semi places and pretty much the same as before.

Having said that, there are a couple of places that have raised the room fee by $10 but most room fees are the same as before and tips are the same as before too...

Semi places are a little different as things might take place that aren't typically on the menu.

My experience at semis has always been FS for $100 on top of door fee both pre and post covid. I have seen some girls asking for a premium since they are providing a service that is not supposed to be offered. For a hot younger girl the premium might be worth it, for a 40 plus, soft around the middle lady, not so much. These situations will always revolve around the girl and her mood and how much of a regular you are.
 
For a hot younger girl the premium might be worth it, for a 40 plus, soft around the middle lady, not so much. These situations will always revolve around the girl and her mood and how much of a regular you are.

Exactly.

and that goes for a youngish average at best girls as well.

they have been notorious for asking for more now.

Guys would be better off paying that price in a premium.
 
Semi places are a little different as things might take place that aren't typically on the menu.

My experience at semis has always been FS for $100 on top of door fee both pre and post covid. I have seen some girls asking for a premium since they are providing a service that is not supposed to be offered. For a hot younger girl the premium might be worth it, for a 40 plus, soft around the middle lady, not so much. These situations will always revolve around the girl and her mood and how much of a regular you are.

You're talking the highest level services at semi places which can be a bit of a gray area but I agree with the figure you quoted.

However, for basic services, I haven't experienced anything different compared to before.
 
If it's the spa KJ is talking about, I have to agree with him here. It's new and clean. Yeah, any small place with only 2 girls might get disorganized from time to time (especially with new girls coming and going) but it's no big deal. Maybe your expectations are too high...you shouldn't be comparing these spas to legit clinics ๐Ÿ™‚. As I'm sure you know, most are run by ex-MPAs trying their best...
your right about expectations..
 
These Chinese MPAs should be grateful to be getting what they are being paid even with no or low tips. If they don't like it, they are welcome to go back to their trash home countries and make a fifth of what they are making in Canada. I also have no sympathy for Chinese that come into this country and not report their full income and not pay their fair share of taxes. Fuck these Chinese cunts
This talk isnโ€™t acceptable.
Not in the least. So far this discussion has been pretty well behaved and respectful. Why did you have to come out and say this bigoted, racist nonsense?

Actually I donโ€™t think anyone needs to hear the answer to that. Please remove yourself from this constructive conversation and go do something else with your time.
 
The guys that have mentioned it are just posting on some general discussion type threads. They aren't 'reviews' per se so why would you expect a play-by-play? ๐Ÿ™‚
Donโ€™t actually need play-by-playโ€ฆ some Zamboni driver tells u he beat the Leafs ๐Ÿ’โ€ฆ

โ€ฆ if u havenโ€™t already heard, then u go, yeah right dude, right :crazy โ€ฆ but a bit of detail how it happened, then u believeโ€ฆ

Allotta zamboni drivers out there thoโ€ฆ only one beat the Budsโ€ฆ ;)
 
Lol, just admit it... you're Renee's hubby.

Donโ€™t actually need play-by-playโ€ฆ some Zamboni driver tells u he beat the Leafs ๐Ÿ’โ€ฆ

โ€ฆ if u havenโ€™t already heard, then u go, yeah right dude, right :crazy โ€ฆ but a bit of detail how it happened, then u believeโ€ฆ

Allotta zamboni drivers out there thoโ€ฆ only one beat the Budsโ€ฆ ;)
 
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    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Sexy Sunday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan โ€” Yui, Eva, Yoyo, Jenny, Julia, 34D Cici, Julie, Tiffany & Cocoโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  31. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Time to visit!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Sunday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿคฉ, Lucy ๐Ÿคฉ, Christina โ€๐Ÿ‘, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜ and Cici ๐Ÿ˜˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  32. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Singapore ๐Ÿ’–Filipino ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  33. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Happy Sunday,ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…, friendly nice girl Sunny providing deep tissue to relax oil message back walking hot stone and nice body slide,๐Ÿ…big big boob sexy face Joey is very good looking,open maid,amazing full body massage,really popular,give you warm comfortable time๐Ÿ”ฅ
  34. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Pretty Girl Cici, New Sexy Girl Faye, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌCICI๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  35. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Fiona. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy
  36. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 3 beauties to choose from today. Open 10am to 9pm: Super SPINNER SUMMER: is a super petite student, very small and slim, 5โ€™3โ€ & super spinner 90 pounds, All Natural 33B Cups & 33โ€ Spinner Hips, very young looking with her pretty baby face. Great at bbbj dfk cim rim cof. Excellent service and Spinner Bod!
  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Sophia,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510
  38. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage salon ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธHellen๐ŸŒธNinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  41. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and sexy Coco and sweet GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer, Sophia & Cindy. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CHRISTINA & JENNY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded.
  44. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yumi๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’‹A striking new tall gorgeous Korean model with long, flowing reddish-brown hair cascading down her back and a slender, elegant figure that exudes grace and poise. Yumiโ€™s natural confidence and allure, make her approach
  46. luckywellness:
    295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7, There are two girls working today, Yoyo and Lala. Lala is the new girl, she is very very young and very very thin, both of them provide very good massage and service
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Elena Vietnamese Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Cici Cute Vietnamese Girl Judy Vietnamese Girl Natalie filipina mixed Petite girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  49. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: ๐ŸŒนMonica, Julie and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  50. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Pretty Girl Cici, New Sexy Girl Faye, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌCICI๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
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